Its all about the models don't you knowCos the models tell us
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So that is a 0.1%, of 1% (UK's contribution to co2), of 0.04% (total co2 in the atmosphere.
0.00004%
Basically the square root of fuck all.
Because it would be embarrassing for them to lay it out as an actual number.
There's a clever lady called Judith Curry can probably answer your question - bit of a science geek you know
Ireland is .000001 of global emissions with 5.1 million people but we have a power grid struggling to cope as we turned off 2 old coal fired power plants as China turns one on every 2 months
Most ot Irelands is down to farts after drinking guiness
And the dirty bold moo cows
I was thinking about cow shit only the other day. I recalled a farmer I used to know, who put human and cow shit (slurry) on his arable land as it was full of nitrates, phosphates, potash? as well as a host of other things that can benefit soil health and support crop growth.
So I was thinking, If we all become vegan/vegetarian then will have to substitute the cow slurry with chemicals for the arable food growth.
How could it be the best option to cover fields for food with even more chemicals, when we have the perfect recycling system already with the poop
So I was thinking, If we all become vegan/vegetarian then will have to substitute the cow slurry with chemicals for the arable food growth.
How could it be the best option to cover fields for food with even more chemicals, when we have the perfect recycling system already with the poop
That’s a big part of the problem, and something the eco-zealots ignore.
Raising livestock regenerates the land naturally. Most arable farms don’t also have livestock, and so no access to natural fertiliser.
Grass fed beef and lamb is carbon negative as the grass they eat soaks up co2. Cow farts is bollocks because the methane comes from the cows from eating the grass that soaks up the co2.
Also, most grazing land isn’t suitable for arable anyway.
Nature’s got it right.
Raising livestock regenerates the land naturally. Most arable farms don’t also have livestock, and so no access to natural fertiliser.
Grass fed beef and lamb is carbon negative as the grass they eat soaks up co2. Cow farts is bollocks because the methane comes from the cows from eating the grass that soaks up the co2.
Also, most grazing land isn’t suitable for arable anyway.
Nature’s got it right.
Unfortunately it can also contain Sanitary towels, tampons, condoms, cuddly toys etc.I was thinking about cow shit only the other day. I recalled a farmer I used to know, who put human and cow shit (slurry) on his arable land as it was full of nitrates, phosphates, potash? as well as a host of other things that can benefit soil health and support crop growth.
So I was thinking, If we all become vegan/vegetarian then will have to substitute the cow slurry with chemicals for the arable food growth.
How could it be the best option to cover fields for food with even more chemicals, when we have the perfect recycling system already with the poop
Cow slurry?
There's not enough sunshine in Britain they never propagate.
How could it be the best option to cover fields for food with even more chemicals, when we have the perfect recycling system already with the poop
Because it's not.
Back in the day when I was counsel for Dept of Ag I learnt more about cropping and livestock than I ever wanted to know.
Broadacre crops (which are a monoculture) fuck up the soil by drawing certain nutrients and not others, creating an imbalance without intervention. Human shit and cow shit is not a customised solution. Different fertilisers are created for different crops specific to their profile. In addition crops (except some GM strains) are defenceless against insects and diseases. So they need spraying with insecticides, fungicides and herbicides (to stop weeds).
Without that lot (and lots of water) you won't have a successful result for the thousands of hectares of crops you have sown.
Crops as with all plants, do have defences when grown in their natural state, in their natural geographic area.
But the main issue here, is that virtually all food plants have been modified over a few hundred years or so...some of them don't and never did exist in nature. Even organic food plants are effectively not natural.
Totally agree with what you said about monoculture crops - vast areas of arable land will be stripped of the nutrients they need to sustain growing anything.
Crop rotation. 
Round and round and round it goes, where it stops no-one knows.
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Leading Russian Scientist Predicts Global Cooling Begins In 2030 | Principia Scientific, Intl.
He is urging the public to make preparations as such levels of cold would have a severe impact on the global food supply
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If only burning fossil fuels warmed the climate we could ban renewable energy and Greta could campaign for more fossil fuels to save her futureRound and round and round it goes, where it stops no-one knows.
Leading Russian Scientist Predicts Global Cooling Begins In 2030 | Principia Scientific, Intl.
He is urging the public to make preparations as such levels of cold would have a severe impact on the global food supply
Perhaps Russia has only just got 1970's western TV broadcasts and saw Telly Savalas warning usRound and round and round it goes, where it stops no-one knows.
Leading Russian Scientist Predicts Global Cooling Begins In 2030 | Principia Scientific, Intl.
He is urging the public to make preparations as such levels of cold would have a severe impact on the global food supply
Was different back then the animals were better sure 2 kangaroos swam from Australia to the middle east just to get on Noah's arkMakes you wonder how people have even eaten since adam and eve
Makes you wonder how people have even eaten since adam and eve
Didn't know you were a creationist.
If you mean since ancient times - there are billions of people on the planet needing feeding these days hence mass scale agriculture. Growing a crop on thousands of hectares is a far more complex venture than tilling an acre or two.
Define complex, in the above context.
I'll demonstrate it. The following addresses crop nutrition in a simple manner offered by an agronomic consultancy called BioAg.
This is what nutrition only of a broadacre crop involves. On top of this is planning applications of insecticides, fungicides, herbicides etc etc
Does that lot appear to you as anything other than complex?
No, because as a farmer this is all in a days work. You don't look at a lawyers instruction book before work every day and neither does a farmer. He knows his fields (and parts thereof) wet patches, stoney bits, bits with overhanging trees, or that create frost pockets etc. etc. etc. The year is a cycle. You've done it all before and you'll do it all again with subtle changes.
This is no different to "tilling an acre or two" you could say that there was even less room for error with the smaller farmer as his livelihood depends on getting it all right.